Share
News

Cheney and Colbert Clash on 'The Late Show': 'You and I Are Just Not Going to Agree'

Share

CORRECTION, Dec. 14, 2023: An earlier version of this article misspelled the last name of Rep. Harriet Hageman of Wyoming, the Republican who defeated former Rep. Liz Cheney in the April 2022 primary for Wyoming’s at-large congressional seat.

Former Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney has finally found herself disagreeing with a Democrat.

Appearing on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” on Monday, Cheney and her host initially found common ground over the question of the supposed threat posed to American democracy by former President Donald Trump.

Calling Trump a burgeoning “fascist dictator,” Colbert asked:

“I’m just curious if you’ve done any self-examination of your party’s leadership over the last 20 years as to why he is not an aberration, but rather an avatar.”

Cheney said Trump “preyed” on “patriotism.”

“I mean, look, I think what Donald Trump has done is, first of all, he tapped into a sense among a lot of people in this country that their voice isn’t heard,” she said. “But he then lied to them and he preyed on their patriotism and told them, ‘You know what? I’ll speak for you.'”

Cheney later concurred with Colbert’s view that Trump’s attacks on the establishment media were a “very fascist thing to do.”

“Look, there’s no question that he’s using a fascist playbook,” she said.



However, the pair found less common ground over the question of left-wing anti-Semitism amid the ongoing war between Israel and the terrorist group Hamas in Gaza, as well as the alleged sins of the Republican Party as a whole.

“The left has a huge problem with anti-Semitism. And what we’re seeing on our university campuses, for example, and the unwillingness to stand against it,” she said.

Did Liz Cheney deserve her defeat in the Wyoming Republican primary?

“I would agree that anti-Semitism is a disease that runs across all cultural boundaries, not only the United States, but across the world,” Colbert said. “What I mean by, say, undermining the media is … undercutting, sort of like roughing up the referee was a project of the right for the last 20 years or undermining public institutions.”

“It’s really important in my view that we not sort of slide into saying everything the Republicans have ever done, you know, is somehow the same as what Donald Trump is doing,” Cheney argued.

“I’m not saying ‘everything,'” said Colbert. “I’m saying those are breadcrumbs.”

Related:
Campaigning with Liz Cheney Appears to Backfire on Kamala Harris in Battleground State

“You and I are just not going to agree on that,” she responded.

“I know we’re not going to agree, but do you understand why I’m asking that question?” said Colbert.

“Yeah, but I think you should let me answer it,” she replied.

Cheney, who was ousted from her Wyoming congressional seat after losing a Republican primary race to now-Rep. Harriet Hageman, went on to say that she feels a “duty” to stand up to the GOP’s current leadership — and Trump’s influence.

“I think the Republican Party has, people who have been in the party, have a particular duty to stand against where we are today. And I also think we all have to recognize using a fascist playbook.”

“I mean, I don’t disagree with what you’re saying,” she continued.

The interview took place as part of Cheney’s tour for her latest book “Oath and Honor,” which discusses Cheney’s views of the Capitol incursion of Jan. 6, 2020, according to publisher Hachette.


A Note from Our Deputy Managing Editor:

I walked into the office one morning and noticed something strange. Half of The Western Journal’s readership was missing.

It had finally happened. Facebook had flipped THE switch.

Maybe it was because we wrote about ivermectin. Or election integrity. Or the Jan. 6 detainees. Or ballot mules.

Whatever the reason, I immediately knew what to do. We had to turn to you because, frankly, we know you are the only ones we can trust.

Can you help? Every donation to The Western Journal goes directly to funding our team of story researchers, writers and editors who doggedly pursue the truth and expose the corrupt elites.

Can I count on you for a small donation? We operate on a shoestring compared to other news media companies, so I can personally promise that not a penny of your donation will be wasted.

 

If you would rather become a WJ member outright, you can do that today as well.

We will use every single cent to fight against the lies and corruption in high places. And as long as we have your help, we will never give up.

Sincerely,

Josh Manning

Deputy Managing Editor

The Western Journal

 

Truth and Accuracy

Submit a Correction →



We are committed to truth and accuracy in all of our journalism. Read our editorial standards.

Tags:
, , , ,
Share

Advertise with The Western Journal and reach millions of highly engaged readers, while supporting our work. Advertise Today.

Conversation